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	<title>Comments on: JPMorgan Chase, &#8220;valid&#8221; $39 overlimit fees, and humanity</title>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ps. If you do not have the funds in your account when you go to buy something you will get a card declined message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ps. If you do not have the funds in your account when you go to buy something you will get a card declined message.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-157335</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can cancel your &#039;Chase Debit Card Coverage&#039; which authorizes Chase to pay overdrafts at their discretion. 

Sure when a payment comes in when you are low (like gas stations sometimes take up to a week to come through) you will be charged an overdraw fee which is acceptable. Bad management of funds which is your own responsibility and stuff happens at times.

Since we got it removed we maybe got hit with a fee twice last year (due to hard times) instead of most months if not twice or three times over a long weekend. Chase has been good to us considering we moved from Fifth Third which really screwed us over. 

This was the only problem we had and it became manageable once we cancelled their &#039;not really covering anything but giving us cause to fine your account with our good intentions of not helping you at all to make money&#039; coverage.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can cancel your &#8216;Chase Debit Card Coverage&#8217; which authorizes Chase to pay overdrafts at their discretion. </p>
<p>Sure when a payment comes in when you are low (like gas stations sometimes take up to a week to come through) you will be charged an overdraw fee which is acceptable. Bad management of funds which is your own responsibility and stuff happens at times.</p>
<p>Since we got it removed we maybe got hit with a fee twice last year (due to hard times) instead of most months if not twice or three times over a long weekend. Chase has been good to us considering we moved from Fifth Third which really screwed us over. </p>
<p>This was the only problem we had and it became manageable once we cancelled their &#8216;not really covering anything but giving us cause to fine your account with our good intentions of not helping you at all to make money&#8217; coverage.  <img src='http://www.pixelmonkey.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-153312</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got hit with the same thing. Talked to the lady, brought up the law, claimed that I have never opted-in. After going back and forth for about 10 min. She waived it off. I mentioned the following ACT and it seemed to have worked. However, there is a loophole in the ACT if you read it carefully, it applies only to &quot;open end consumer credit plan&quot; which means personal/household credit cards, not business credit cards. She told me the ACT does not apply to business card but she waived it for me anyway.

Frankly I don&#039;t know why the lawmakers left a hole here. Seems to me small businesses should be protected from these guys as well.

Anyway, try argue using the Credit CARD ACT of 2009 (in effect as of 2/22/2010).
TITLE I, Section 102, item k.

Good luck!

Here are the related paragraphs:

SEC. 102. LIMITS ON FEES AND INTEREST 
CHARGES.

‘‘(k) OPT-IN REQUIRED FOR OVER-THE-LIMIT TRANSACTIONS IF FEES ARE IMPOSED.—

‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—In the case of any credit card account under an open end consumer credit plan under which an overthe-limit fee may be imposed by the creditor for any extension of credit in excess of the amount of credit authorized to be extended under such account, no such fee shall be charged, unless the consumer has expressly elected to permit the creditor, with respect to such account, to complete transactions involving the extension of credit under such account in excess of the amount of credit authorized.
‘‘(2) DISCLOSURE BY CREDITOR.—No 
election by a consumer under paragraph (1) shall take effect unless the consumer, before making such election, 

received a notice from the creditor of any over-the-limit fee in the form and manner, and at the time, 

determined by the Board. If the consumer makes the election referred to in paragraph (1), the creditor shall 

provide notice to the consumer of the right to revoke the election, in the form prescribed by the Board, in 

any periodic statement that includes notice of the imposition of an over-the-limit fee during the period 

covered by the statement.
‘‘(3) FORM OF ELECTION.— A consumer may 
make or revoke the election referred to in paragraph (1) orally, electronically, or in writing, pursuant to 

regulations prescribed by the Board. The Board shall prescribe regulations to ensure that the same options are 

available for both making and revoking such election.
‘‘(4) TIME OF ELECTION.— A consumer may 
make the election referred to in paragraph (1) at any time, and such election shall be effective until the 

election is revoked in the manner prescribed under paragraph (3).
‘‘(5) REGULATIONS.— The Board shall 
prescribe regulations—
  ‘‘(A) governing disclosures under this 
subsection; and
  ‘‘(B) that prevent unfair or deceptive acts or 
practices in connection with the manipulation of credit limits designed to increase over-the-limit fees or 

other penalty fees.
‘‘(6) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in 
this subsection shall be construed to prohibit a creditor from completing an over-the-limit transaction, 

provided that a consumer who has not made a valid election under paragraph (1) is not charged an over-the-

limit fee for such transaction.
‘‘(7) RESTRICTION ON FEES CHARGED FOR 
AN OVER-THE-LIMIT TRANSACTION.—With respect to a credit card account under an 
open end consumer credit plan, an over-the-limit fee may be imposed only once during a billing cycle if the 

credit limit on the account is exceeded, and an over-the-limit fee, with respect to such excess credit, may be 

imposed only once in each of the 2 subsequent billing cycles, unless the consumer has obtained an additional 

extension of credit in excess of such credit limit during any such subsequent cycle or the consumer reduces 

the outstanding balance below the credit limit as of the end of such billing cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got hit with the same thing. Talked to the lady, brought up the law, claimed that I have never opted-in. After going back and forth for about 10 min. She waived it off. I mentioned the following ACT and it seemed to have worked. However, there is a loophole in the ACT if you read it carefully, it applies only to &#8220;open end consumer credit plan&#8221; which means personal/household credit cards, not business credit cards. She told me the ACT does not apply to business card but she waived it for me anyway.</p>
<p>Frankly I don&#8217;t know why the lawmakers left a hole here. Seems to me small businesses should be protected from these guys as well.</p>
<p>Anyway, try argue using the Credit CARD ACT of 2009 (in effect as of 2/22/2010).<br />
TITLE I, Section 102, item k.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Here are the related paragraphs:</p>
<p>SEC. 102. LIMITS ON FEES AND INTEREST<br />
CHARGES.</p>
<p>‘‘(k) OPT-IN REQUIRED FOR OVER-THE-LIMIT TRANSACTIONS IF FEES ARE IMPOSED.—</p>
<p>‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—In the case of any credit card account under an open end consumer credit plan under which an overthe-limit fee may be imposed by the creditor for any extension of credit in excess of the amount of credit authorized to be extended under such account, no such fee shall be charged, unless the consumer has expressly elected to permit the creditor, with respect to such account, to complete transactions involving the extension of credit under such account in excess of the amount of credit authorized.<br />
‘‘(2) DISCLOSURE BY CREDITOR.—No<br />
election by a consumer under paragraph (1) shall take effect unless the consumer, before making such election, </p>
<p>received a notice from the creditor of any over-the-limit fee in the form and manner, and at the time, </p>
<p>determined by the Board. If the consumer makes the election referred to in paragraph (1), the creditor shall </p>
<p>provide notice to the consumer of the right to revoke the election, in the form prescribed by the Board, in </p>
<p>any periodic statement that includes notice of the imposition of an over-the-limit fee during the period </p>
<p>covered by the statement.<br />
‘‘(3) FORM OF ELECTION.— A consumer may<br />
make or revoke the election referred to in paragraph (1) orally, electronically, or in writing, pursuant to </p>
<p>regulations prescribed by the Board. The Board shall prescribe regulations to ensure that the same options are </p>
<p>available for both making and revoking such election.<br />
‘‘(4) TIME OF ELECTION.— A consumer may<br />
make the election referred to in paragraph (1) at any time, and such election shall be effective until the </p>
<p>election is revoked in the manner prescribed under paragraph (3).<br />
‘‘(5) REGULATIONS.— The Board shall<br />
prescribe regulations—<br />
  ‘‘(A) governing disclosures under this<br />
subsection; and<br />
  ‘‘(B) that prevent unfair or deceptive acts or<br />
practices in connection with the manipulation of credit limits designed to increase over-the-limit fees or </p>
<p>other penalty fees.<br />
‘‘(6) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in<br />
this subsection shall be construed to prohibit a creditor from completing an over-the-limit transaction, </p>
<p>provided that a consumer who has not made a valid election under paragraph (1) is not charged an over-the-</p>
<p>limit fee for such transaction.<br />
‘‘(7) RESTRICTION ON FEES CHARGED FOR<br />
AN OVER-THE-LIMIT TRANSACTION.—With respect to a credit card account under an<br />
open end consumer credit plan, an over-the-limit fee may be imposed only once during a billing cycle if the </p>
<p>credit limit on the account is exceeded, and an over-the-limit fee, with respect to such excess credit, may be </p>
<p>imposed only once in each of the 2 subsequent billing cycles, unless the consumer has obtained an additional </p>
<p>extension of credit in excess of such credit limit during any such subsequent cycle or the consumer reduces </p>
<p>the outstanding balance below the credit limit as of the end of such billing cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-82457</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone - I have constant issues with Chase; the best way I get my problems resolved is by emailing the CEO directly. Typically I receive a PHONE CALL from Mr. Dimon&#039;s secretary to let me know she has spoken with him and he is escalating the issue for me.....my problems are usually resolved within 48 hours. His email address is: 	jamie.dimon@chase.com - best of luck!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone &#8211; I have constant issues with Chase; the best way I get my problems resolved is by emailing the CEO directly. Typically I receive a PHONE CALL from Mr. Dimon&#8217;s secretary to let me know she has spoken with him and he is escalating the issue for me&#8230;..my problems are usually resolved within 48 hours. His email address is: 	<a href="mailto:jamie.dimon@chase.com">jamie.dimon@chase.com</a> &#8211; best of luck!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-79828</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is so funny. Here you are having a rant because you overspent your limit because you are unable to run your business correctly.! If you don&#039;t know your credit limit you shouldn&#039;t have a card, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is so funny. Here you are having a rant because you overspent your limit because you are unable to run your business correctly.! If you don&#8217;t know your credit limit you shouldn&#8217;t have a card, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy jing</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-77399</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly same thing happened on me. this is the most unlawful institution I have even seen. I was charged 78 usd in two month. If I did not looked carefully into my Bank account , this fee would not  be discovered. If they have 20 million members. And each one is charged 150 per year, it would be 3 billion. what a fxxx.

I will cancel my card. Can anybody tell me where to complain this unlawful institution? thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly same thing happened on me. this is the most unlawful institution I have even seen. I was charged 78 usd in two month. If I did not looked carefully into my Bank account , this fee would not  be discovered. If they have 20 million members. And each one is charged 150 per year, it would be 3 billion. what a fxxx.</p>
<p>I will cancel my card. Can anybody tell me where to complain this unlawful institution? thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-77386</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same problem, over the limit fee!!! I called and asked that they remove it and they advised me that late fees and over limit fees can not be removed.  I canceled my card.  I then called and checked my balance to mail in the whole balance and saw they had assessed me a second over the limit fee the day after the statement closing date.  I hadn&#039;t even gotten the bill in the mail yet when the had assessed the second fee.  Rotten Business Practice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem, over the limit fee!!! I called and asked that they remove it and they advised me that late fees and over limit fees can not be removed.  I canceled my card.  I then called and checked my balance to mail in the whole balance and saw they had assessed me a second over the limit fee the day after the statement closing date.  I hadn&#8217;t even gotten the bill in the mail yet when the had assessed the second fee.  Rotten Business Practice!</p>
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		<title>By: Chase Absolutely Stinks</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-77361</link>
		<dc:creator>Chase Absolutely Stinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got dinged for the same thing.  They should just decline the transaction, pretty simple.  Once I complained they said they would change my card to now decline instead of trigger the overlimit fee.

Reading the thread, what planet is BETH-LOL from?  The issue here is Chase sets an arbitrary low  limit that is well under what you actual spending capabilities are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got dinged for the same thing.  They should just decline the transaction, pretty simple.  Once I complained they said they would change my card to now decline instead of trigger the overlimit fee.</p>
<p>Reading the thread, what planet is BETH-LOL from?  The issue here is Chase sets an arbitrary low  limit that is well under what you actual spending capabilities are.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-77352</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post, pixelmonkey. I too have a Chase credit card with a $500 limit and got the exact same $39.00 fee. I called today to complain and the first guy i received said that currently there was nothing he could do due to the new credit card legislation being enacted, i then called a second time seeing if i would get a different response and received the same lines you were fed. However, i called a few days ago and the guy said that once my balance is paid in full they may consider removing it if i call again--my account was paid in full today before i called.

It angers me because i only went over by a small amount AND my other Chase credit card had $1,600 AVAILABLE at the time of the &quot;over-limit&quot; fee. I have automatic payments enabled and ALWAYS have paid IN FULL and ON TIME!

I am also considering writing to the very top Chase executives to complain---more out of principal than the fee itself!

My question to anyone reading this is whether or not the new Credit Card legislation enacted by congress (CARD ACT) which explicitly denies credit card companies the right to charge over-limit fees without first getting permission from their customers---by default the over-limit transaction would be denied--whether this will make a difference in trying to get back the over-limit fees that happen prior to when the act takes place on February 22nd 2010. My guess is any fees charged before February 22nd will not be effected--but perhaps after that date they may be more lenient with removing the fee?

By the way, the woman i talked to at Chase today said that there are no provisions in the new credit card legislation effecting late fees---that of course, was a flat out lie.

Please keep us updated on any new developments!---i will check back periodically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post, pixelmonkey. I too have a Chase credit card with a $500 limit and got the exact same $39.00 fee. I called today to complain and the first guy i received said that currently there was nothing he could do due to the new credit card legislation being enacted, i then called a second time seeing if i would get a different response and received the same lines you were fed. However, i called a few days ago and the guy said that once my balance is paid in full they may consider removing it if i call again&#8211;my account was paid in full today before i called.</p>
<p>It angers me because i only went over by a small amount AND my other Chase credit card had $1,600 AVAILABLE at the time of the &#8220;over-limit&#8221; fee. I have automatic payments enabled and ALWAYS have paid IN FULL and ON TIME!</p>
<p>I am also considering writing to the very top Chase executives to complain&#8212;more out of principal than the fee itself!</p>
<p>My question to anyone reading this is whether or not the new Credit Card legislation enacted by congress (CARD ACT) which explicitly denies credit card companies the right to charge over-limit fees without first getting permission from their customers&#8212;by default the over-limit transaction would be denied&#8211;whether this will make a difference in trying to get back the over-limit fees that happen prior to when the act takes place on February 22nd 2010. My guess is any fees charged before February 22nd will not be effected&#8211;but perhaps after that date they may be more lenient with removing the fee?</p>
<p>By the way, the woman i talked to at Chase today said that there are no provisions in the new credit card legislation effecting late fees&#8212;that of course, was a flat out lie.</p>
<p>Please keep us updated on any new developments!&#8212;i will check back periodically.</p>
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		<title>By: Pep</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-76326</link>
		<dc:creator>Pep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am foreign (from Spain, Europe) and I am working for a University from USA. It happened exactly the same to me with a Chase Credit card. I was really frustrated about this fee, to me look a clear &quot;legal&quot; way to steal you. Why you have a credit limit, if you can go over it? Answer: to charge you a new &quot;valid&quot; fee.  Here I have seen the worst credit card policy that I have ever experimented, it is full of hidden fees, it is incredible! I will cancel my credit card from Chase for sure, these Chase&#039;s guys are extremely sharp, and they probably have been make numbers, and the balance between passive guys that accept this steal and the angry guys that change to another bank is positive.
Let&#039;s turn the statistic! Don&#039;t be an asshole: complain! and if don&#039;t get your money back: change to another bank (let&#039;s hope to find a better politics).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am foreign (from Spain, Europe) and I am working for a University from USA. It happened exactly the same to me with a Chase Credit card. I was really frustrated about this fee, to me look a clear &#8220;legal&#8221; way to steal you. Why you have a credit limit, if you can go over it? Answer: to charge you a new &#8220;valid&#8221; fee.  Here I have seen the worst credit card policy that I have ever experimented, it is full of hidden fees, it is incredible! I will cancel my credit card from Chase for sure, these Chase&#8217;s guys are extremely sharp, and they probably have been make numbers, and the balance between passive guys that accept this steal and the angry guys that change to another bank is positive.<br />
Let&#8217;s turn the statistic! Don&#8217;t be an asshole: complain! and if don&#8217;t get your money back: change to another bank (let&#8217;s hope to find a better politics).</p>
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		<title>By: pixelmonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-76292</link>
		<dc:creator>pixelmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard back after the complaint yet, which is par for the course for Chase, apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard back after the complaint yet, which is par for the course for Chase, apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: Avani</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-76291</link>
		<dc:creator>Avani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exact same problem and exact same response.  I am pissed and will put in a complaint too.
Has anyone heard back after the compliant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exact same problem and exact same response.  I am pissed and will put in a complaint too.<br />
Has anyone heard back after the compliant?</p>
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		<title>By: Saurabh</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-75909</link>
		<dc:creator>Saurabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello pixelmonkey,

I had the exact same problem and it went about the same when I called the customer service. I did talk to supervisor but she was adamant enough not to revert the fee. I have the complaint address noted down. I will send them a mail. I actually want to mail this incident to a higher executive because I am pretty sure when the customer representative called me to offer this credit card, I was never told about this fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello pixelmonkey,</p>
<p>I had the exact same problem and it went about the same when I called the customer service. I did talk to supervisor but she was adamant enough not to revert the fee. I have the complaint address noted down. I will send them a mail. I actually want to mail this incident to a higher executive because I am pretty sure when the customer representative called me to offer this credit card, I was never told about this fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-75766</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got dinged for 35 dollars over the limit over, wait for it, being 27 cents over! I guess my account was credited for a return but not for the entire amount. They also told me they could not remove a valid fee. I explained it was over by 27 cents; he was polite but insisted there was nothing they can do to remove the debt. I got this when I was &quot;late&quot; by a half hour (wrong time zone.) I told them I did not need their puny credit limit that badly and to close my account. I am so dinged up by balance chasers that my score can only be raised with a bankruptcy at this point. Since it was small CL, they are lucky that they will get paid...unlike others who can sit and spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got dinged for 35 dollars over the limit over, wait for it, being 27 cents over! I guess my account was credited for a return but not for the entire amount. They also told me they could not remove a valid fee. I explained it was over by 27 cents; he was polite but insisted there was nothing they can do to remove the debt. I got this when I was &#8220;late&#8221; by a half hour (wrong time zone.) I told them I did not need their puny credit limit that badly and to close my account. I am so dinged up by balance chasers that my score can only be raised with a bankruptcy at this point. Since it was small CL, they are lucky that they will get paid&#8230;unlike others who can sit and spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister X</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-75533</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cary is astroturfing for Chase, and Beth is just a pathetic Troll.

Chase dings me on my Debit card for $33.00 if I go over &quot;my limit&quot;.

Yes, it&#039;s a total rip-off, and I moved my accounts to a local credit union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cary is astroturfing for Chase, and Beth is just a pathetic Troll.</p>
<p>Chase dings me on my Debit card for $33.00 if I go over &#8220;my limit&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a total rip-off, and I moved my accounts to a local credit union.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth-LOL</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-75463</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth-LOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is so funny. Here you are having a rant because you overspent your limit because you are unable to run your business correctly.! If you don&#039;t know your credit limit you shouldn&#039;t have a card, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is so funny. Here you are having a rant because you overspent your limit because you are unable to run your business correctly.! If you don&#8217;t know your credit limit you shouldn&#8217;t have a card, period.</p>
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		<title>By: pixelmonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-74972</link>
		<dc:creator>pixelmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cary,

I see it differently.  I think &quot;overlimit fees&quot; are a way consumer credit card companies -- and banks that have credit cards -- simply rip customers off daily.  $39 is small enough that many customers will see the fee and not even bother to call to complain.  Of those customers who call to complain (like me), many will give up when faced with a phone rep like I was.  Only because I am so god-damned pissed off, I am going to charge into my branch one of these days and demand the fee removed, OR ELSE.  (... where &quot;OR ELSE&quot; will be me closing every single one of my Chase accounts.)

But that&#039;s just me.  Meanwhile, I have no doubt that hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of consumers have $39 overlimit fees that they do not contest, and that this makes the credit card companies and banks tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cary,</p>
<p>I see it differently.  I think &#8220;overlimit fees&#8221; are a way consumer credit card companies &#8212; and banks that have credit cards &#8212; simply rip customers off daily.  $39 is small enough that many customers will see the fee and not even bother to call to complain.  Of those customers who call to complain (like me), many will give up when faced with a phone rep like I was.  Only because I am so god-damned pissed off, I am going to charge into my branch one of these days and demand the fee removed, OR ELSE.  (&#8230; where &#8220;OR ELSE&#8221; will be me closing every single one of my Chase accounts.)</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just me.  Meanwhile, I have no doubt that hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of consumers have $39 overlimit fees that they do not contest, and that this makes the credit card companies and banks tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
		<link>http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2009/10/30/jpmorgan-chase-valid-fees-and-humanity/comment-page-1#comment-74719</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whomever set you up at Chase had no idea what your needs were (or perhaps you needs were rapidly changing).  As long as you don&#039;t have excessive credit lines elsewhere it shouldn&#039;t be a problem to raise the limit and reverse the fee.  This is done all the time.  If an account is setup correctly, things should operate completely smoothly and fees only get generated in extreme circumstances when warranted in advance (like not paying your bill).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whomever set you up at Chase had no idea what your needs were (or perhaps you needs were rapidly changing).  As long as you don&#8217;t have excessive credit lines elsewhere it shouldn&#8217;t be a problem to raise the limit and reverse the fee.  This is done all the time.  If an account is setup correctly, things should operate completely smoothly and fees only get generated in extreme circumstances when warranted in advance (like not paying your bill).</p>
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